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Station Repetition

GGirl
Underground

Altho I have faithfully followed the instructions to add variety/new artists to my station, I never hear them. I seem to hear the same 20 or so songs over and over. How do I fix this? As best I can tell this isn't a genre station and the "add variety" button isn't greyed out.

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AdamPandora
Moderator
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@GGirl It's true there can be a certain amount of repetition in some stations. Each listener has different tastes when it comes to hearing the familiar versus discovering new songs. Finding the right balance for each individual is something we continue to work on.

In the meantime, here are some things you can do to improve your stations:

  1. Listen using Pandora Modes when listening from a computer or mobile device, you can access Pandora Modes to customize your station experience. You can pick different modes like Crowd Faves, Discovery and Deep Cuts.
  2. Put tracks on the shelf: If you get sick of a track but don't want to give it a Thumbs Down, you can put it on the shelf for a while. To do this from the web, hover your mouse over the album art and select "I'm tired of this track." Pandora Premium listeners should click the ellipsis (3 dots) next the album art to see that option.
  3. Edit your station: In some cases, it might actually help to remove Thumbs Up ratings in the station to mix things up.
  4. Add Variety: To add more variety to your artist or song based stations, you can select additional artist and/or song seeds. You can Add Variety when editing stations.

Running through these steps should increase the variety of the station pretty quickly during your listening sessions. 

Thanks for posting on the community!

Adam | Community Moderator

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AdamPandora
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@GGirl It's true there can be a certain amount of repetition in some stations. Each listener has different tastes when it comes to hearing the familiar versus discovering new songs. Finding the right balance for each individual is something we continue to work on.

In the meantime, here are some things you can do to improve your stations:

  1. Listen using Pandora Modes when listening from a computer or mobile device, you can access Pandora Modes to customize your station experience. You can pick different modes like Crowd Faves, Discovery and Deep Cuts.
  2. Put tracks on the shelf: If you get sick of a track but don't want to give it a Thumbs Down, you can put it on the shelf for a while. To do this from the web, hover your mouse over the album art and select "I'm tired of this track." Pandora Premium listeners should click the ellipsis (3 dots) next the album art to see that option.
  3. Edit your station: In some cases, it might actually help to remove Thumbs Up ratings in the station to mix things up.
  4. Add Variety: To add more variety to your artist or song based stations, you can select additional artist and/or song seeds. You can Add Variety when editing stations.

Running through these steps should increase the variety of the station pretty quickly during your listening sessions. 

Thanks for posting on the community!

Adam | Community Moderator

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davidjharris123
Opening Act

I'm tired of the repeats, same artists and same songs being played over and over with no discovery of new artists.  I'm also tired of the awful sound quality on IOS, despite paying for a plus subscription.  I'm going over to Spotify.

ajlierl
Local Performer

The put on the shelf option needs to be added to the app and not just be available on desktop. I have tried all these other options and still am very close to trying a different streaming service. Fix your algorithms!

senselocke
Underground

Station with over 300 liked songs, 25 seeds, and set to Discovery played ONLY music already heard and liked. Skipped forward every time I saw a thumbs up. I ran out of time (30 minute drive), every single song a repeat.

I should not have to give up and use LiveXLive or Spotify, and y'all really don't want Premium folks finding out other options work better.

How about you just make ALL features available for ALL versions (mobile, desktop). Oh, and give us back "move this track to another station". This used to simply add a "like" to a song on another station. Now you have to:

  1. pause the station
  2. write down the artist and track
  3. open "my collection"
  4. open a station
  5. open "add variety"
  6. search the song or artist, and
  7. add as a station seed

You can no longer just add a  "like", it must be a seed. That's a stupid amount of steps compared to the killed feature. And even more obnoxious on Mobile, since it now takes minutes instead of seconds.

You used to have the ability to split a station into several, moving songs around. You can't anymore.

So quit telling us to "spin the knobs". It's been the same non-answer year after year. Stop removing features. And for heaven's sake find and fix your busted code.

PS: Copying the whole list of Liked songs on desktop requires loading an "infinite" page showing only ten or so more songs each time. Last time I "spun the knobs" I copied everything to a text file, deleted, and started over  It took almost 20 minutes to load the each station's whole list, and it was causing the browser to lag. It's not a simple or easy process. And since you can only add songs as "seeds" and not just "likes" the new station hyper-focuses on, again, the same songs. A "download station" feature that saves a simple text file with station details would be dead simple to create.

AdamPandora
Moderator
Moderator

@senselocke Nice to see you around the Community. 👋🏽

Move this track to another station & Liking tracks no longer a feature: 

Thank you for sharing your feedback around this. If you'd like to see these options added back to the service, I recommend creating a feature request for your suggestion here.

This will give others around the Community a chance to upvote your idea to express interest as well.

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Discovery Mode only playing liked tracks:

What is the name of the station you are listening to on Discovery Mode when it is only playing thumbed up tracks?

Let me know.

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pr3
Local Performer

I agree with davidjharris123.  I spent years curating a Pandora station that was to my liking, adding artists, thumbs up/down, etc.  only to now hear thumbs up tracks repeatedly, 1-2 songs per artist, if I hear them at all and virtually no new, same genre artists.  I like the songs my station plays, just don't need to hear them multiple times a day with no variety.  I struggled through ads for years and recently decided to pay for a Pandora subscription, but am re-thinking the wisdom of that decision.  Looking into YouTube music which has everything, but I'll be sad to see all my years of diligence and love for Pandora wasted by weird algorithims and lack of variety.  Also, the seeming inability to change your mind about a thumbs up'd song.  I've tried "un-thumbing" but it just pops back up.  I'm afraid if I do thumbs down, I'll never hear it again.

Please do better, Pandora.  Subscribers deserve it.

 

AdamPandora
Moderator
Moderator

Thank you for sharing your feedback, @pr3.

You should still be able to edit any Thumb ratings you've changed your mind about.

Check out the accepted solution to this thread for instructions on how to do so: How to edit thumb ratings

Hope this helps!

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