For the last week or so every time I turn on Pandora (phone and desktop) it shuffles in the same order. To the point that I can call what the next genre is going to be. It starts with 90s country, then Tom Petty, then 90s Pop, then Beatles, etc. How do I fix this? It's driving me crazy! I have probably close to 100 stations on my shuffle and it keeps going in the same order. every. time...
the "shuffle" stations option is overly repetitive!
it misses 2/3 of my station collection.
it constantly selects a music genre that is not even close to my 'stations collection' sensitivity!
please add my burden to an ongoing priority.
Hi there, @scotte. 👋
Thanks for posting about this. I moved your post over to this existing thread: Music is repetitive in shuffle mode
Check out this post for some tips on how you can prevent Shuffle mode from getting too repetitive.
In the meantime, I have shared your feedback with our engineering team regarding this issue. 🎧
The previous problem was solved. It’s not playing the stations in the same shuffled order but now it is mostly shuffling through a dozen(ish) stations even though I’ve got around 100 stations (and yes, they’re all checked).
I listen to pandora every single day at work on the browser. 10 hours a day for the last 12 years. Every single day I seem to hear the same songs. I have a diverse station collection of over 100 stations that ranges from strict eras of a genre (90's country, 2000's pop, etc.) rap, rock and roll, down to specific artists. I have every single station selected and play on shuffle every day. You would expect that many stations with so much variety to play for ages before it had to repeat songs, but yet ill hear the same songs over and over in the course of 2 days. I have changed the shuffle stations to just 3 different genres in hopes that that would limit similar stations from playing the same song near each other. Even that resulted in hearing the exact same songs id heard in the last few days.
Now I've also followed the edge trouble shooting steps to a T and it resulted in no noticeable change. I am beginning to think that Pandora is no better than listening to the plain old radio. Same songs over and over day after day, several times a day. I listen to pandora, so I don't have to hear the same crappy music every single day. certainly, starting to think it's not worth paying for premium as I do. Something has to change Pandora!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. If I wanted to make a Playlist I'd be using Spotify or any other music streaming platform. Like @eVarese said, shuffle is what has always made pandora different, but it just doesn't seem that way anymore. Pick any given artist, and look at their entire music collection. I will use Montgomery gentry as my example as I hear them on a daily basis. If I click on their full song list of 145 songs, I can say with 100% certainty I only ever hear the top 4 songs on the list. That's pathetic. What about the other 141 songs available? Now add up every single artist I have in my collection. That's 10s of thousands of songs I never get to hear. Do you see the problem pandora?
Sadly, it seems the im tired of this track feature only works for a couple of days, as ive heard songs play only a mere couple of days after saying im tired of this track.
This is a good idea, and I think it would go well with another feature I have seen suggested prior. Someone said a feature where you could tell pandora to never repeat a single song for a selected duration. 1 day, 10 days, 30 days. I love the sound of that feature and think that would be a perfect solution to whatever pandora is doing now.
Moderator Edit: Merged posts
I've used Pandora for years and it used to be perfect, with mostly new songs and occasional repeats. Now I usually keep my stations on "discovery" or "deep cuts" mode because I want to mostly hear new songs and variety instead of only repeating a dozen or so thumbed up songs. It's not as good as it used to be (because I can't get discovery and deep cuts at the same time) but it works.
But when I try to shuffle multiple stations, almost everything that plays is from my thumbs up lists, and even the ones that aren't are still songs I've already listened to. I haven't heard a single new song while shuffling my stations. This is very frustrating because its the exact opposite of what I want when I shuffle: maximum variety and unpredictability. If I wanted to hear the same songs over and over, I'd be listening to a playlist instead of a station! Is there any way to make shuffle play more variety from each selected station?
If there's nothing I can do to improve this, I want to request a feature to select modes for shuffle the same way you can when listening to stations.
Your feedback has now been added to the ticket we have open with our engineering team regarding the shuffle issue.
In the meantime, check out the accepted solution to this thread for some tips on how you can prevent Shuffle mode from getting too repetitive.
We appreciate your patience.
Oh my this is exactly my problem. It used to be great. Now it is the same 4 songs over and over. I cleared every single one of my "thumbs up" songs for this reason. Unfortunately that did not solve the problem either. It seems to only play the "popular" songs. I also have gone to "deep cuts" but unfortunately that excludes the "play this artist only" options which I also like to use. If you included an "I'm tired of this track" in shuffle mode I think that would solve it!
Edit - I see that I can get "tired of a track" in shuffle mode on the online version of Pandora, but I cannot on my Android device. That is where I use Pandora. Please add it to Android!
I've been with Pandora since the beginning. I have ton's of stations, but with that said. I've been relegated to the same songs and same artists over and over again, while in shuffle mode. thumbprint Radio is no different. this is getting old.
I have removed most of my Thumbs up ratings and still get most of the same songs over and over. What is being done to fix this? Also, as I was removing the thumbs up I would get an error message that would not allow me to remove the thumbs up rating indicating technical issues and cant complete that request at this time.
@coolhouse Thanks for sharing your experience.
In addition to removing thumb ratings from your station, I recommend trying out these additional suggestions:
1. Create a custom shuffle mix. If you haven't already, try making a custom shuffle. You can include any station you'd like, and this set of stations will be saved as My Shuffle (or QuickMix) on all your devices. Let us know if you'd like the steps for that.
You'll then be able to check the boxes next to the stations that you want to include in your custom shuffle, and this set of stations will be saved as My Shuffle (or QuickMix) on all your devices.
2. Avoid including several stations based on similar artists or songs. Choosing several stations of a similar style will create a repetitive shuffle mix. When selecting stations for shuffle (or when creating any new stations in general) consider selecting artists or tracks that musically contrast. This will yield a broader playlist.
3. Put tracks on the shelf. If you get sick of a track but don't want to completely ban it, you can put it on the shelf for a while by selecting I'm tired of this track/song.
Error message when removing thumb ratings:
Could you tell me a bit more about what is happening? Are you listening to Pandora on a computer or on a device?
Thanks for working with me on this. 🤝
Blah Blah Blah
Translation: We will continue to extract your hard earned money from your bank account, lead you to believe there will be a solution, but in the end do absolutely nothing to fix this and your frustration and disappointment will multipy.
Oh, and would you like to reply to an irrelevant survey at the end??
My complaint as well. This community is not with it. Pandora support sent me this link via twitter. I've spent quite a lot of time creating my own station with songs and artists. Today was the first time I've listened to the station. I've had the station on 4 hours and have had no repeats.
The previous thread you posted on was specific to repetition when shuffling customized playlists for Premium users.
The issue you were describing is for repetition when shuffling your collected stations.
Thanks for sharing your experience, and glad those steps helped resolve this for you.
I have a similar problem with just one channel. I created one with about 25 artists in it, but I only hear songs from a portion of them, and it's always the same artists. I've added variety a few times adding artists each time, but I have yet to hear a song from the recently added artists. Also, I'm playing in deep cuts. Maybe none of the songs from these artists are designated deep cuts and therefore don't play?
I use deep cuts because as much as I love Santana, if I wanted to hear Oye Como Va one more time, I'd listen to FM radio.
I'll try to recreate a new station and see if that helps. Otherwise, suggestions welcome. Thanks!
I have so many songs that have NEVER been played on my Thumb's Up playlist that it's ridiculous. It's insulting to think that Pandora has done ZERO to correct this issue in 3 years. My guess is it's money-related and tied to royalties paid for songs. Otherwise, the technology is simple: Exhaust playlist of all songs before repeating. Period. No, Pandora does this intentionally, or at the very least offers nothing in the way of an apology or refund or any consideration at all. Really disappointing given how special music is on our lives. We are not members by accident....we love our music. And yes kjfrey55....I watched as Santana collapsed on stage July 5th from the 4th row. Praying for his speedy recovery and return to the stage. 🙏