So there's this function of "I'm tired of this song."
My issue is that this should be automatic. I shouldn't have to tell Pandora "you've already played that song 3 times today, please stop."
Once a song is played, whether it is thumbed up or unrated, that same exact song should not play for a week. (Or a user-set amount of time for how frequently they want repetition. I don't. I'd make it a month if I could.)
I want to hear either new music, or, music I haven't heard in a long time. I get so extremely frustrated and angry when I keep hearing the same stuff over and over in spite of the hundreds, thousands, possibly even millions of songs on Pandora, somehow the exact same music keeps playing on my station over and over anyway. And that's not even counting the thousands of thumbs up I've given over the years. There is no reason a song should play twice in the same day, ever, much less more than twice, unless the user has constructed a playlist that's that short.
And I should not be required to interrupt what I'm doing to toggle back to the station and manually tell Pandora "I'm tired of this song" dozens or hundreds of times a day. That's a ridiculous thing to ask your customer to do. And that's even assuming you're listening using a method that even has that function. Where's the "I'm tired of having to click I'm tired" button??
I want to press play and walk away, and then, hours later when my workday is over, turn it off as I leave. That's it. That's all that should be expected of me. And maybe if I really love a song, I'll come and give it a thumb up, or if I hate a song and never want to hear it again, thumb it down. And if something comes on that I'm just not in the mood for, hit skip. That's it. Thumb up, thumb down, skip. That's all I should ever have to use.
The "I'm tired of this song" function indicates that the station has failed. That setting should never have had to have been invented in the first place...it's admitting that the station has failed to bring you music. We listen to STATIONS, not playlists, for exactly this reason. And if you have to hit that function over and over and over and over and over again....that should really call some attention to the fact that something is broken.
I listen to music in the background while I do other things. Listening to music is not intended to be an actively engaged process where after every song plays I have to tell the station to not play that song again any time soon, or constantly shuffling playlists, or jumping between stations, or really interacting with the player in any way. That's ridiculous. It should be built in.
Please, fix this.
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I have an idea that should be simple to program in order to get the variety I'm yearning for. A station with this algorithm could be called 'maximum variety' or 'variety listening' or something. What I want is simple. First, play any song I've ever thumbed up (unless it has been played too recently). Then, or if not enough thumbed up songs remain, play any song you think I might like (unless it has been played too recently). I literally want it to alternate between a thumbed up song and a not-yet-rated song, 1 and 1, back and forth, never doing 2 of the same type in a row (unless there's not enough thumbed up songs in which case it would only play recommendations until enough time passes to be able to play thumbed up songs again). The time frame for "too recently" could either be set by the user, or dynamically increased by combining the total running time of all thumbed up songs. I think the latter would be better. The more songs they thumb up, the more variety they get. That's what I want. And I'm wiling to pay a higher monthly fee for it. If you get it exactly right I'd even pay like up to $50 a month for it. Please. (Also, the required tagging of posts is a really annoying system. Please consider removing.)
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I've been a long time subscriber of Pandora. For me I started with LAUNCHcast (if anyone ever heard of that), which became yahoo radio, which then ended, and that's when I switched to Pandora and I haven't used anything else since and I've always had the top plan available. So I'm an extremely loyal customer. But I am definitely frustrated with one thing....repetition. Over the years I have like over 1000 songs thumbed up by now. And yet I'll hear the same song twice in one day. This is unacceptable to me. Out of so many songs to choose from that I've already said I liked, not to mention countless more that could be recommended but I haven't thumbed them up yet, a 100-song shuffle is just not enough, especially for my listening habits. (In 2019 I have nearly 60k minutes listened. I listen while I drive. I listen while I work. That's a lot of time.) I want something simple: I want it all.
I basically want to hear every song I've ever liked, and every recommended song, ever, in one huge mix. And I absolutely want new music to be mixed in over time, particularly the latest hits.
I've tried various ways to get this to work and have come close but no cigar. I seem to be either stuck with one or the other (either it plays only what I like, or it tries to come up with some new songs I might like but then gets stuck on the same 100 songs and never changes). I have tried shuffling all my stations, but they're capped at like 100 songs each and are still super repetitive. I used to use the "I'm tired of this song" function but I can't find it anymore. And plus, whenever I used it, it didn't seem any different from thumbing it down...even though I liked the song, I never heard it again, months or years later. Seriously, there's some songs that I haven't heard come up on the rotation in years. Possibly even close to a decade, now. And yet other songs will play two, three times a day. Come on! My thumbprint radio seems stuck on the last 100 songs I thumbed up instead of the full 1000 I've thumbed. My Thumbprint playlist of course absolutely refuses to play any recommendations and only plays the music I've thumbed and I never hear anything new. (And I also can't hear any station-required songs.) Playlists also seem to play the explicit version of songs that I thumbed up a clean version of. So that's frustrating. I just now found something about being able to shuffle songs in your collection...but I haven't built a collection of songs, only thumbs ups, since I listen to stations much more often than playlists, and thumb things up rather than "add to collection." I can't find any way to import or transfer my thumbs up list into a "collection" of songs. There's a thousand songs in that list. I don't want to "add to my collection" one by one. I can't find a "add all songs to my collection" function in the playlists either, unless I'm blind. And even if I did this, I'd probably get stuck on the same thing as the thumbs up playlist anyway; station songs won't play, explicit lyrics will, and nothing new ever shows up, ever. I also can't seem to shuffle playlists together. For instance if I could shuffle "thumbprint" and "the drop" together then that could work (except for the missing radio songs and forced explicit lyric versions)...but it will only 'queue' the lists, not shuffle them together. The "when list is done, play songs like it" function would be good....if my thumbprint list wasn't 1000 songs long so I have to listen to every song I've ever thumbed up before it decides to start playing anything new. (Most of the time the app updates and starts over long before that happens.) And "the drop" playlist doesn't seem to want to do this "songs like it" feature. Right now my solution is to use 'thumbprint radio' and just be super heavy on the skip button. I wind up skipping like 10, 20 songs in a row sometimes, just to get to something I haven't thumbed up yet, and often it's a song I've heard many times and just haven't gotten around to thumbing it up yet. x.x The lack of the "I'm tired of this song" function is frustrating, and I don't want to thumb anything down and never hear it again. x.x I don't want to mess with the app every time I get tired of hearing the same stuff over and over. I just want to hit 'play'. I want a one-button experience. That's it. If I occasionally hear a really great song I'll thumb it up or if I hear something I never want to hear again I'll thumb it down. That's how I want to enjoy my music. ALL of it. Every song there ever was or will be. Is that really too much to ask? I'm at my wit's end trying to figure out how to configure this to get what I want...all my music, all the time, and not just some small slice of it over and over. Argh! Help!
Yay, thanks for bringing my post back. Sorry I went a little nuts with the formatting, I was bored and trying out the editor. XD Also, I underestimated some of my stats. According to my profile here, I've been subscribed since 3/3/2009, have 5321 thumbs, and 1941 music hours. Honestly that just makes me more frustrated that I can't find the right way to maximize my variety. =( Any help, now that my post is back?
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