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Ideas: Higher Audio Quality

Ideas: Higher Audio Quality

pboser
Underground
Status: Open Ideas

How about higher audio quality?  Amazon has introduced this feature, and others have been ahead of Pandora as well.  It would be great to have the Genome Project advantage with higher audio quality.  Do others agree?

Moderator Edit: Edited title for clarity

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chulohock
Underground
I totally agree!

Anytime I listen to Pandora I always have a smile on my face. I cannot say that about the others.

Listen to Amazon Music in standard streaming quality. It sounds great! Why? Because they encode music at that setting with the Opus codec. Listen to YouTube music in the normal setting. It sounds great! Why because they encode music at that setting with the Opus codec.

If technically high res is unattainable for Pandora they should encode using Opus - open source and free.

Do you really want to be blown away? Now listen to Spotify streaming at their low level. Guess what? It sounds great! Why? At that setting Spotify encodes music with HE-AACv2 (24kbps), which actually sounds better than their highest setting at 320 kilobits per second. Why? because it's a superior codec to Ogg Vorbis, which is what Spotify uses at the highest setting.

My vote is for the free, open source Opus codec.

Pandora are you listening or do you just not care?

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chulohock
Underground

I totally agree! 

Anytime I listen to Pandora I always have a smile on my face. I cannot say that about the others.

Listen to Amazon Music in standard streaming quality. It sounds great! Why? Because they encode music at that setting with the Opus codec. Listen to YouTube music in the normal setting. It sounds great! Why because they encode music at that setting with the Opus codec. 

If technically high res is unattainable for Pandora they should encode using Opus - open source and free. 

Do you really want to be blown away? Now listen to Spotify streaming at their low level. Guess what? It sounds great! Why? At that setting Spotify encodes music with HE-AACv2 (24kbps), which actually sounds better than their highest setting at 320 kilobits per second. Why? because it's a superior codec to Ogg Vorbis, which is what Spotify uses at the highest setting.

My vote is for the free, open source Opus codec.

Pandora are you listening or do you just not care?

Captkaos2211
Underground

Have you compared it vs lossless direct PCM,dsd, or not on gear that can you can actually hear the difference like a good dac trust me it's a big difference between aac and lossless.... Regardless of the encoding listen to flacc vs Spotify or YouTube or standard Amazon you will quickly understand.

chulohock
Underground
I've been a lossless high-res fanatic since it was introduced into streaming. There is no question that it sounds better than any lossy codec. I'm just pointing out that if Pandora has technical limitations maybe they can consider a free and open source lossy codec like Opus. If you haven't tried streaming Amazon Music in the standard setting or YouTube music in the normal setting go ahead and try it. Let me know what you think.

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fudney
Local Performer

Maybe the staff at Pandora should listen to hi-def stations and see what we mean.  I'M 71 and can hear the difference. 

sum1uno
Local Performer

5 years later and we're still stuck with 192kbps. Are we all supposed to switch to Spotify?

chulohock
Underground
Yeah I'm no longer subscribed to Pandora. I've moved over to Amazon Music and Apple Music. I also use YouTube premium, which includes YouTube music, that has come a long way.

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samsplace
Local Performer
Sounds like the way to go


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Captkaos2211
Underground

It's pretty obvious Pandora doesn't care.... Just saying 

whatshertoes
Local Performer

would be great to get an update from Pandora team on this