Richmond99
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| Created | Tier | Playlists | Stations | Thumbs | Music hours | Podcast hours |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/12/2009 | FREE | 75 | 55 | 223 | 13819 | 0 |
Still working there Adam? I've now found an entire playlist on which Pandora has replaced every single song! (Sample screenshot attached) It's a shame because (as usual) I spent a lot of time creating and 'curating' the list. Not only are there substandard/re-recorded/demo/live versions substituted, but even the ones whose names haven't changed have also been replaced. The upshot: yet another playlist has been rendered completely useless. As I've said before, it's mystifying why Pandora goes so far out of its way to alienate its paying customers, especially in instances like these where the music is fairly unpopular and hence should not be costly for Pandora to stream in the first place. Any thoughts?
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Your graphic shows a live version I've never even seen before! The latest issue is that live versions are replacing my selected studio versions without being indicated as such. Anyway, I've already replaced the versions as you instruct, and a day later it's still sticking. So I'm moving on to the next example: Santana's "Black Magic Woman" -- same deal here except that in this case the live version which Pandora chose to replace the studio version on my playlist was in fact marked as such. That does help to identify what's going on, if not why. Part of the problem is that I'm able to add tracks which seem to be properly included in my playlist, but if I come back days or weeks later I find that dozens of tracks have been replaced. Not only is it a laborious task to search and replace the tracks one-by-one, but the new additions end up situated at the end of the playlist rather than in their original sequence. This amplifies the labor factor considerably, and it's why I just quit listening to that playlist entirely. I'm sort of afraid to look at others--there's only so much time in a day. Thanks for your assistance.
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Still there? I've returned to this issue today. It's become more complicated. Now live versions are replacing my selected studio versions without being indicated as such. If you can see my 'Shlock Rock" playlist the Allman Brothers' "Ramblin' Man" is such an example. It's displayed as a studio cut but it's actually an extended live version if you listen to it. Can you provide any insight into this new angle? Thanks PS: In relation to the original issue, I've noticed that songs generally aren't replaced with live versions until I've situated them within the playlist. Unfortunately this makes for additional work twice: once to locate and then situate them wherever; then again when they need to be replaced. Advice welcome as always.
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Okay thanks. Attached is a SS of the 'before' screen for a playlist segment. Each of the 'live' tracks was previously a 'studio' version. I'll now replace these and see what happens over the next few days. Then I'll try it with a jazz playlist which is frankly more important to me. Thanks again for your help--I'd really like to get this issue resolved.
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Actually it's been nearly a month since the original complaint. Now songs in all of my playlists are being removed and replaced--not just with inferior versions but with entirely different songs. For example, Anita O'Day's "Stompin' at the Savoy" on my playlist entitled "Old-timey Jazz" has been replaced with the vastly inferior "Bolero at the Savoy" (previously unknown to me) and Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit" has been replaced with a rehearsal version. Etc etc etc.
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Hi again--there's too much personal information in the message and the screenshot for me to post them publicly. Can you recommend a workaround? Thanks
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Thanks for your prompt response. Have sent you a DM w/screenshot. I would very much like to retain control over my Premium playlists.
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If Pandora is going to re-edit our playlists for us, that makes them useless. Right now about 40% of the songs in my rock music playlist have been replaced with really horrible live versions. They are unlistenable. So what's the point of a playlist? Pandora 1) makes them hard to edit yourself and then 2) edits them whether you want them to or not. I despise live versions, and now my playlists are useless. If word gets out that Pandora is doing this, it'll be even harder to attract/retain subscribers. To say that I'm dismayed is an understatement. Just as with removing the "I'm tired of this track" functionality for Premium subscribers, Pandora keeps de-contenting the service for its best customers. That's a strange business model to say the least.
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A new trick from Pandora: now they're editing my playlists for me. This is how: they're deleting studio versions of songs I've added and are replacing them with cheaper (and much worse) live and out-take versions. Making my playlists--which I've spent tons of time editing--increasingly useless. Yet another way Pandora have found to express their contempt for their subscribers.
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Most of the notifications are spurious. It's essentially a software malfunction, Pandora has been aware of it for years, and clearly they have no intention of dealing with it.
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Is there any chance that this issue will be addressed? It's been going on for several months at the least. Along with the inability to hit 'I'm tired of this track' the inability to edit playlists is really making Pandora Premium a useless 'upgrade'.
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@spb999 wrote: I've also noticed over the past couple of years that Pandora throws in the cheapest possible versions of popular songs. Has nothing to do with "variety" and everything to do with the cost of playing the song. Yeah, Pandora's been doing this for years. Finding obscure versions, re-recordings, outtakes, crappy live versions, etc. Anything to avoid the original song and associated royalties. What's surprising me lately is that the practice has migrated over to the music I listen to most: jazz and classical. Where the audience (and hence the royalties) are much smaller and this sort of subterfuge shouldn't be required. Penny saved is a penny earned I guess. Disappointing, though, if your objective is to listen to the music you like.
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Also, the "Add Similar Songs" function (which I really like) did not work within the Playlist Edit function--it added them but even though I clicked SAVE the changes vanished. However when I used the same function within the Currently Playing playlist, I was able to add ten (but only ten) songs to the playlist which is not 238 songs instead of the 228 I'd been stuck with before.
*now 238, not 'not' 238
Moving songs within a playlist also does not 'stick'. I move a song (in this case Bobby Timmons' "So Tired" up several spaces so that it precedes my other Timmons tunes, and it stays there, I save the playlist, and when I return to it the song hasn't moved. Hmm.
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When I try to respond to this thread, I get the following message:
Authentication Failed.
Authentication Ticket Mismatched, failed authentication.
I will now try again, since that message finally went through. Following is the message I had tried to send several times previously. I'll delete the image attachment in case that is related to the error message I received above.
Hi Adam, thanks for responding. I'm using a Galaxy Tab A8 Android V9 tablet over wifi.
The playlist in question is called "Jazz2" and I'm attaching a screenshot. When I swipe left on the second track "C-Jam Blues" and select Delete, the track appears to vanish. The next time I open Pandora it's there again. Thanks for your advice--Rich
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Greetings: I'm having the same kind of problem. One of my playlists keeps playing a song which is not visible on the playlist whenever I try to edit it! It shows on the "Now Playing" list as the second song on the list but when I bring up the playlist as instructed in this thread it's nowhere to be found. It's a really annoying song and I'd really love never having to hear it again. Thanks
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Quote: "Other listeners would love to have this feature with Premium on mobile devices. If you'd like to see this option as well, we do have an existing feature request thread" As has been explained numerous times in this thread, we're not dreaming up new features we'd enjoy on Pandora. We're trying to get back what we already had. It's not a "feature we'd love to have" it's a feature we ALWAYS HAD until we paid up for Premium tier. It would be different if we were warned when upgrading that we'd be losing basic features.
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Finally found this 'explanation': "Looks like you're using Pandora Premium on your mobile device. "This feature is available on both web and mobile for Free and Pandora Plus listeners. This isn't currently available for Pandora Premium subscribers." I just upgraded from Pandora Plus to Pandora Premium and have been searching (and following various directions from other threads) for the last two hours to try and figure out why this critical feature had vanished from my app. If I'd known I'd have to forego it I doubt I'd have signed up for the upgrade. Normally when you pay extra for a higher service tier you are able to enjoy more and better features, not fewer and worse. Sort of mystified here.
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